I’ve been on plenty of podcasts, but this was my first time hosting one! As part of my job at Asmodee, I’ve been working on “30 Years of Legend of the Five Rings,” a series of audio interviews celebrating 30 years since the debut of L5R. This second series of the Play to Win podcast from Aconyte Books explores the perspectives of the people who had a hand in L5R’s making, past and present.

In Episode 1, I’m joined by two of the people responsible for the collectible card game’s creation, John Zinser and Ryan S. Dancey. Give it a listen on YouTube (or wherever you listen to podcasts) to learn about the game’s origins and inspirations, what it was like launching a collectible card game when the bottom dropped out of the market, and what they did to survive. I also got to ask them about their plans—or perhaps lack thereof—leading up to the game’s supposed end at the Second Day of Thunder at Gen Con 1997.